Rev. William Sloan Coffin on NPR, 1985.

April 14th, 2006 NPR Broadcast.
Who died in 2006 at 81.
Chaplain of Yale during conflict of 60's.

Terry Gross on Fresh Air in 1985 interviews Coffin.

I like this point:

"As Saint Augustine once said, 'Love God and do what you like.' Which is not license, but freedom. Rules and regulations are like the stick that hold up the tomato vine. Without the stick the vine couldn't get off the ground, but it's a combination of sun and soil that strengthens and nourishes the tomato vine - and there is no life coming out of that stick. And I think it is the same with rules and regulations. They are penultimate, they are not ultimate, the point beyond themselves, don't look at us, use us to get beyond ourselves and that the integrity of love is much more important than the purity of dogma.
So, to me a true believe is one whose heart is overflowing with compassion and love for others, and who feels that rules and regulations are important, but not ultimately important."

- Rev. William Sloan Coffin.